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Stunning numbers want Congress to probe Obama's eligibility



Analyst says 'birthers' can't be marginalized, as 28% ofDemocratsagree



Posted: June 26, 2011
4:55 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2011 WND

 

Editor's note:This is another in a series of monthly "WND/WENZEL POLLS" conducted exclusively for WND by the public-opinion research and media consulting companyWenzel Strategies.



Barack Obama

Half of Americans would like to see Congress investigate Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency and nearly that many believe the definition of the constitutional term "natural born citizen" means both parents must be U.S. citizens, according to a new scientific poll.

 

"There's no marginalizing those who want this matter investigated by Congress," said Fritz Wenzel ofWenzel Strategies,who conducted the WND/Wenzel Poll telephone survey June 16-19. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.85 points.

 

"Even among Democrats, more than one in four – 28 percent – said they now want an inquiry, as do 43 percent of independents and 77 percent of Republicans. Interestingly, men are much more skeptical than are women about the question of eligibility – only 42 percent of men said they think Obama proved his eligibility by releasing the electronic birth certificate, compared to 59 percent of women."

 

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The poll indicated 43.5 percent of Americans believe that a Hawaii birth would make no difference in Obama's eligibility, as the Constitution requires both parents of a U.S. president to have been U.S. citizens – and Obama's father was not a citizen.

 

The figure included 56.9 percent of the GOP, 40.2 percent of independents and 32.9 percent of Democrats.

 

The eligibility saga, as Wenzel noted, has taken on a life of its own. It began with questions about Obama's birth place and parentage before his election. At that time, he released a computer image of a "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii and insisted it was original and the only document available.

 



Dozens of lawsuits followed, and hundreds of questions remained unanswered. Documents that typically would be available from a president's history for Obama remain concealed, including passport records, kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records and schedules, medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license and adoption records.

 

Then in April, just as a new book,"Where the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is Not Eli...by Jerome Corsi, Ph.D., reached the No. 1 spot on Amazon and was about to be released, Obama took a dramatic step.

 

He instructed his White House counsel, Robert Bauer, to have a private attorney, Judy Corley of Perkins Coie,  contact the Hawaii Department of Health to obtain a copy of his "Certificate of Live Birth" purportedly on file with the state.

 

The White House subsequently released copies of a copy of that document, as well as an online image, calling it "proof positive" of a Hawaii birth. Since then, however, dozens of experts, including several ex-CIA members, have asserted that the document is fraudulent.

 

That image:


At its release, WND contacted the Hawaii Health Department and the office of Gov. Neil Abercrombie, an ardent Obama supporter, to request confirmation that the image released was an accurate representation of the state's file information. Officials refused to respond.

 

Joseph Farah, founder and CEO of WND.com, the only news organization to report fully on the controversy, and publisher of "Where's the Birth Certificate?," said the issue is growing in significance and will be a dominating question in the 2012 presidential election.

 

"Barack Obama may think he put his eligibility controversy behind him with the release of an unauthenticated and unauthenticatable document, but this poll shows the American people still believe he is still hiding his own constitutional ineligibility for office," he said. "I agree with the large percentage of respondents who say this issue will continue to haunt him through the campaign of 2012 – if he actually dares to run for re-election."

 

Wenzel's analysis of the poll results agreed.

 

"If Barack Obama thought that by releasing an electronic version of what the White House said was his long form birth certificate, the question of his eligibility to serve as president would be settled once and for all, he was badly mistaken. My latest polling shows that only a bare majority of 51 percent believe the release of his birth certificate proves he is eligible to serve, and now, half of adults nationwide want a congressional inquiry into his eligibility to serve.

 

"This reflects a deep distrust of the White House on this question. More telling is that 57 percent in this national telephone survey were either greatly or somewhat troubled by assertions that the electronic birth certificate appears to have been either forged or tampered with. Another 38 percent said they were not troubled at all by such assertions," Wenzel said.

 

"Obama came into office with such fanfare and made such sweeping claims that his administration would repair holes in our social fabric and fix our economy, but America has seen none of that. Disappointment has given way to disillusionment and anger, and this survey reveals that even on a simple, basic question of his qualification to hold the office of president, many are skeptical that what the White House has delivered is not at all what was advertised," Wenzel said.

 

"There are many reasons this eligibility question has taken on a life of its own, but that only half the country believes that the president has proven he deserves to hold the office reveals a deeply held belief that he is somehow trying to trick the country. This sense of distrust underlies public perception of everything Obama does and says, which means that, as he begins to build a re-election campaign, it is going to be increasingly difficult for him to make a case on any issue as long as this question about the authenticity of his birth certificate remains unanswered. In fact, releasing the birth certificate that Obama released may have made worse his standing with the American people, and that will certainly be the case if a congressional inquiry discovers it has been tampered with or forged," Wenzel warned.

 

Asked whether the constitution's requirement for a "natural born citizen" means "anyone born in the U.S.," there was a majority of 78 percent. But there obviously is a level of confusion on the issue as 43.5 percent said they believe that to be eligible, both parents of a president must have been U.S. citizens at the time of his birth.

 

Nearly 27 percent said "just one parent needs to be a U.S. citizen at the time of the person's birth."

 

The most likely definition at the time the Constitution was written was a person born of two parents who are citizens of the nation.

 

Only 50.5 percent believe that the electronic image released in April documents his eligibility, and skeptics included more than 73 percent of the GOP, 48 percent of independents and more than 26 percent of Democrats.

 

Further, almost 57 percent were troubled by the evidence that the Obama electronic image of a "Certificate of Live Birth" was forged or had been tampered with. Only 38 percent said they were not troubled, and another 4.7 percent said they were uncertain.

 

Looking at the presidential campaign that Obama already has launched, 38.2 percent said eligibility will be an issue. More than 44 percent of all voters said the lingering questions will impact their decision regarding their vote in the next presidential election.

 

Shortly after the White House released the "birth certificate" image,Gallup reported that only 47 percent think Obama was definitely was born in the U.S. and 18 percent said he "probably" was.

 

Obama released the image saying he had no time for such silliness as questions about his birth, then departed for an appearance on Oprah's television show.

 

Part of the doubt that remains could be attributableto the many analysts who have issued statements casting doubt on the integrity of the online image posted by the White House.

 

Web document experts have questioned the document's authenticity, and a close inspection of the Hawaii Department of Health state registrar's official stamp on the birth records even reveals an apparent typographical error.

 

The stamp, affixed April 25, 2011, says "TXE RECORD."

 

Yet, on a copy of a Hawaii long-form birth certificate issued only one month earlier, the stamp says "THE RECORD."

 

Also, the former Department of Health director, Chiyome Fukino, who reported she examined the original document, in an interview described it as half-typed and half-written. The image released by Obama, however, is all typed, with only the signatures written.

 

Another recent poll reported by the Los Angeles Timesshowed that the release of the White House image just weeks ago failed to convince a majority of Republicans.

 

The poll by Public Policy Polling said only 48 percent of Republicans said they believe Obama was born in the United States.

 

Some 34 percent said they did not believe Obama was born in the U.S., while 18 percent said they still aren't sure.

 

On April 26, the day before the release of the long-form birth certificate, a USA Today/Gallup poll indicated only 38 percent of Americans were convinced Obama was born in the U.S., and another 18 percent said he probably was.

 

It was only a few months after Obama's inauguration that a WND/Wenz...showed that 51.3 percent of Americans said they were aware of the questions raised about Obama's constitutional eligibility for office.

 

Only 18.7 percent said they were not and another 30 percent were unsure.

 

At that point, 58.2 percent of the GOP said they were aware of the controversy.

 

Polls later revealed Americans to be increasingly skeptical of Obama's official narrative:

 

  • A survey by Angus Reid Global Monitor, a division of Vision Critica...in October 2009 found three in 10 people in the U.S. believed Obama to be a foreigner.


  • "While only 13 percent of Democratic Party supporters believe Obama was not born in the U.S., the proportion rises to 25 percent among independents and 51 percent among Republican Party backers," the report said.
  • Then in January 2010, another WND/Wenzel Pollshowed on the one-year anniversary of Obama's tenure in office that fully one-third of Americans refused to believe Obama was a "legitimate president," with another 15.8 percent saying they were not sure.


  • Barely half the voters, 51.5 percent, said they believed the president legitimate even though he had not produced documentation proving his constitutional eligibility. Even 14.6 percent of the Democrats said they did not consider him legitimate.


  • In May 2010, a WND/Wenzel Poll showed that 55 percent of Americans ...relating to his childhood and his education, including "college records, Harvard Law School papers, passport records, travel records, and other similar documentation."


  • "Asked what should be done should it be found that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be president, 59 percent said he should be removed from office, and 35 percent said all bills signed into law by Obama should be repealed," the poll's analysis revealed.


  • By June 2010, other media were beginning to put their toes in the w...A 60 Minutes-Vanity Fair poll showed only 39 percent of respondents believed Obama was born in Hawaii as he claimed in his book.


  • "A shocking 63 percent – very nearly two-thirds of us – went out on a limb and stated for the record that we believe in the United States. It's enough to make you proud to be an American – or 63 percent proud, at any rate."


  • But that figure included those who said they believe he was born in Kansas or some other unknown state, which still would conflict with Obama's story.


  • Last August, a poll by CNNsaid 6 of 10 people were uncertain Obama was born in the U.S. The poll said only 42 percent believe Obama "definitely" was born in the U.S.


  • The CNN report said, "Hawaii has released a copy of the president's birth certificate – officially called a 'certificate of live birth.' And in 1961 the hospital where the president was born placed announcements in two Hawaiian newspapers regarding Obama's birth."

 


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Comment by Raising Up A Standard on June 27, 2011 at 6:21pm

FYI~~

 

Rick Godwin a powerful mighty man of God ministered years ago on the "curse of sedition" and I had to pray for about 30 minutes before the Holy Spirit would give me the term "sedition" I couldn't remember the term that the Holy Spirit wanted me to share with you.

 

Now he just brought it up in my spirit...there are people who for one reason or another leave a church and go down the road and start their own church with members of the church they left and when you do that you are under a "CURSE OF SEDITION"...and you will reap what you have sowed.

 

We must be careful to not "touch God's anointed one" even if He is in error and I know that you have to be led of God to be able to walk that fine line between the prophetic and the "set-one" who has been placed in leadership by God even like the evil king that King David had to serve...

 

Sedition - the causing of discontent, insurrection, or resistance against a government.  

Comment by Raising Up A Standard on June 27, 2011 at 5:34pm
Also, if you are in fellowship with this Pastor, the Bible states that we are to be at "peace" and not cause "division" in the body. If he will not receive from you then you must seek God so you will not be the one to cause division.
Comment by Raising Up A Standard on June 27, 2011 at 5:31pm

Don't cast your pearls before swine!

 

Jezebel will never listen to you. It takes a willingness on the part of the person out of order to be set free and be delivered before they will change. Perhaps you are not the one God will use to bring deliverance to this pastor.  Ask God and pray for Him that God will bring someone he will receive deliverance from. 

 

Just follow the word...you cannot change them.  It is our responsibility to follow the Holy Spirit and only speak what He gives us permission to speak.  The rest is up to the person to receive or not.  We cannot change them, only the Holy Spirit can change them. 

Comment by Raising Up A Standard on June 27, 2011 at 4:08pm
too many have their own agendas!
Comment by Raising Up A Standard on June 27, 2011 at 11:00am
The "familiar" spirit reins in too many so called prophets and prophecies. That is why God is raising up Apostolic people all over the globe to usher in the truth.  Isa. 62:10 lift up a "standard" for the people.
Comment by Raising Up A Standard on June 27, 2011 at 10:53am

I believe it had to get worse for most people would even notice...especially our brothers and sisters who are waiting for the rapture and think they only have to pray and wait for the rapture which is what the Church as a whole has been teaching and preaching...there have very few leaders who have preached kingdom living...Apostle Jonas Clark and Prophet David Wilkerson come to my mind and there are others but as I have been involved with many churches in my area there have not been the preaching and teaching of "righteousness" or the responsibility that we have as children of God to "affect" every area of our culture instead we have allowed for many years the culture to change our churches now it is not going to be reversed overnight short of a miracle from God and while many have allowed this "loosey goosey" doctrine to reign it is going to take righteous leaders preaching a "kingdom doctrine" that is why I submit to and admire people like Apostle Jonas Clark who are preaching the "kingdom".  

 

Comment by Raising Up A Standard on June 27, 2011 at 7:27am
The American Patriots are very tired of being duped by an ungodly socialist that is ruining our nation and removing all of our freedoms that our forefathers founded this nation on and after much prayer I believe it is time for "ACTION".

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